53 undisciplined men

**ravenjoe** · 11-04-2012, 04:03 PM

How is it that this team continues to get flagged for penalties?! It boggles my mind that this team, week in and week out, continue to hurt themselves with penalties! Harbs, this is on YOU! You may not have the personnel - although teams like the Steelers and Giants seem to be able to regroup with their personnel - but to allow these mental mistakes to persist, is, imho, a sure recipe for disaster!

**LukeDaniel** · 11-04-2012, 04:53 PM

I would estimate that more than 30 guys on the roster have zero penalties this year.

**bmorecareful** · 11-04-2012, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by LukeDaniel

I would estimate that more than 30 guys on the roster have zero penalties this year.

And I believe John Harbaugh has been called for 3 penalties by himself!

The majority of the penalties we're facing this year are on the OL (which has been very penalty prone for many years now) and in the secondary (which is simply a very, very bad unit all the way around.)

So yeah, this is a factor of a handful of guys being incredibly penalty prone rather than an entire team breakdown in discipline.

**ravenjoe** · 11-04-2012, 05:35 PM

It was simply a play on words, my friends....

**chicagoravensfan** · 11-04-2012, 07:24 PM

Very strange -- this was a strength last year and now it's a weakness. Then again, our Special Teams were awful last year and now they're pretty good so at least we have that...

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**Corey** · 11-04-2012, 07:28 PM

Those refs were a little ticky tack today. Not to say we don't have a problem, I just don't think this game was a good example of it. Especially given how skewed the penalties were in the Browns favor until the very end.

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 11-04-2012, 08:31 PM

No, no, no...

They're 53 MIGHTY Undisciplined Men.

54 if you count Harbs too.

**HoustonRaven** · 11-04-2012, 08:34 PM

This game was not the refs best game. Both teams got some odd calls.

That said, this is a huge problem and now Harbs gets his third unsportsmanlike of the season?!?!

That's totally inexcusable. The coach should set the tone, not set the president.

**alienrace** · 11-04-2012, 09:39 PM

The Ravens haven't been drafting intelligent players in years. Some of these guys are so ridiculously dumb it makes my skull hurt.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 11-04-2012, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

This game was not the refs best game. Both teams got some odd calls.

That said, this is a huge problem and now Harbs gets his third unsportsmanlike of the season?!?!

That's totally inexcusable. The coach should set the tone, not set the president.

Agree here...I get the need for coaches to work the refs, but too many times he has been totally out of control.

**B-more Ravor** · 11-05-2012, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

This game was not the refs best game. Both teams got some odd calls.

That said, this is a huge problem and now Harbs gets his third unsportsmanlike of the season?!?!

That's totally inexcusable. The coach should set the tone, not set the president.

Agreed - inexcusable. It's actually only been 2 this year (there was one last year), but regardless, it's no longer an isolated incident, it's become a pattern now.

He certainly qualifies as the "54th" undisciplined man.

It cannot continue to happen. In a bigger, closer game, it could really come back to haunt them/him.

**Corey** · 11-05-2012, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by alienrace

The Ravens haven't been drafting intelligent players in years. Some of these guys are so ridiculously dumb it makes my skull hurt.

It's all across the board. Pollard wasn't drafted by the Ravens and he's one of our worst offenders. Neither was Leach, who came really close to picking up an unsportsmanlike penalty of his own, that would have knocked the Ravens out of field goal range.

**Tucker: M&T Sec 527** · 11-05-2012, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74

No, no, no...

They're 53 MIGHTY Undisciplined Men.

54, counting Harbaugh

This

Cleveland was baiting us mercilessly, esp. after the whistle (laying on Pierce to draw a PF, the sh** w/ Yanda - pulling his helmet off & a single leg take-down wrestling move seemed just a tad flagrant from my sofa

, bumping titties w/ DBs, etc.). It is our job not to respond in kind, but everybody tries the same stuff on us, cause there's a chance with us that it will work ( Philly did big time; just wait till Pitts.!). OL calls are going to happen (some holding & false starts are part of the cost of doing business).

**saintmatthew** · 11-05-2012, 12:28 PM

The PF on Pierce was BS IMHO, at the very least offsetting. I don't know what's in their water but Cleveland has always been like this. Remember them gouging McGahee's eyes in the pile back in either 2008 or 2009? Must be the bitterness of perennial losing.

**Lee Van Cleef** · 11-05-2012, 02:24 PM

Wouldn't have this problem with Rex as HC!

**JohnBKistler** · 11-14-2012, 11:07 AM

Over the last 3 games, the Ravens are averaging 6 penalties per game...which would rank them about 10th in the league over the entire season.

Not great, but improving.

And agree that Harbaugh has to tone it down. Once you get the reputation as being a hot-head, and he has, the officials are going to be more quick to "T" him up.