Big Ben

**leachisabeast** · 11-13-2012, 09:58 AM

Typical Ravens fans, blocking their ears and screaming "he's still playing, he's still playing!" without accepting that this is actually being reported as a serious injury. Quit it with the reverse psychology guys, if he's out, he's out...

**Corey** · 11-13-2012, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Typical Ravens fans, blocking their ears and screaming "he's still playing, he's still playing!" without accepting that this is actually being reported as a serious injury. Quit it with the reverse psychology guys, if he's out, he's out...

He's not out yet Leach. We've been down this road before with Jen.

**Iscull** · 11-13-2012, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by kronusthebonus

Yeah right, I'm not buying this bullshit one minute. You can bet your ass he'll be out there and ripping our pass defense to shreds next week.

Agree. He just does this to get the media all hyped up about out "tuff" he is...

**leachisabeast** · 11-13-2012, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Corey

He's not out yet Leach. We've been down this road before with Jen.

I honestly don't remember it ever being like this though man.

**DrUnk** · 11-13-2012, 10:01 AM

He probably had a pimple pop in his armpit. That's significant for Jen.

**Paintballguy** · 11-13-2012, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Corey

He's not out yet Leach. We've been down this road before with Jen.

I think it's different this time.

**Corey** · 11-13-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

I honestly don't remember it ever being like this though man.

What do you mean? The severity of the injury? He's got a partially torn something in his shoulder, he could have just left as a precaution. And it's not like the Steelers are going to reveal the results.

If it is a separated or sprained shoulder, you are probably right about him being out. But it's all speculation right now.

**DkBlue** · 11-13-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Iscull

Agree. He just does this to get the media all hyped up about out "tuff" he is...

So you believe he left a close game on Monday Night and go to the hospital to get attention?

Ridiculous. Ben gets plenty of attention no matter what he does.

**leachisabeast** · 11-13-2012, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Corey

What do you mean? The severity of the injury? He's got a partially torn something in his shoulder, he could have just left as a precaution. And it's not like the Steelers are going to reveal the results.

If it is a separated or sprained shoulder, you are probably right about him being out. But it's all speculation right now.

Did you ever read the story, "the boy who cried wolf"?

**Iscull** · 11-13-2012, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by saintmatthew

Meanwhile, Suggs is fuming that he put all this effort into coming back in time for the Steelers games and Ben's ass won't be there.

Your right. Suggs keeps Ben's ass in his fridge at home. He's owned it for a while now...

**NOLARavenFAN** · 11-13-2012, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by alienrace

Not sounding good for Ben - http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-a-source-says

Ben exaggerates injuries a lot, but this one to his throwing arm? Who knows.....

**leachisabeast** · 11-13-2012, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by DkBlue

So you believe he left a close game on Monday Night and go to the hospital to get attention?

Ridiculous. Ben gets plenty of attention no matter what he does.

While I think he has milked injuries before, it's ridiculous to accuse him of this kind of thing.

**JAB1985** · 11-13-2012, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Typical Ravens fans, blocking their ears and screaming "he's still playing, he's still playing!" without accepting that this is actually being reported as a serious injury. Quit it with the reverse psychology guys, if he's out, he's out...

until we know we can only assume he'll be there. hes done it too many times not to. Now there is speculation that its severe, but until thats what is reported as being true, i have to go with the original thought.

I do think the injury is real. I just think if its only a sprain hell pass it off as a separation until game time. Until i hear for certain otherwise, thats what my opinion is, thats not reverse psychology or wishful thiking, its just based on the best information we currently have, which isnt much.

**NOLARavenFAN** · 11-13-2012, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by DkBlue

So you believe he left a close game on Monday Night and go to the hospital to get attention?

Ridiculous. Ben gets plenty of attention no matter what he does.

Yeah, that would be really off the wall......if it ever really happened.

**NOLARavenFAN** · 11-13-2012, 10:11 AM

I don't believe a thing I read on ESPN or any national sports media.......

**Corey** · 11-13-2012, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Did you ever read the story, "the boy who cried wolf"?

**JAB1985** · 11-13-2012, 10:31 AM

I think some people are possibly misusing the terms 'faked' and 'milked'. Kind of similar to the Gaither topic. Faking means it never took place (which is doubtful in both scenarios), milking means they can play it up for their or their teams benefit. Granted Sanders was just fined for "faking" an injury, under the circumstances i cant see Roethlisberger faking anything. theres no benefit. However milking is something hes done before. Without know he could have been pulled for precautionary reasons and now be able to milk a lesser injury. Hes also been legitimately hurt and unable to play so I think we should see whats actually reported and not speculated.

**goodandfast** · 11-13-2012, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by RedSkins Fury

Yeah, we've been made Leftwich's bitch on more than one occasion in his illustrious "Boller Beating" career... They still have speed at WR, and a decent Running game. KC did a good job shutting their WRs down on a slow field. But, if Wallace is running free, it doesn't matter who the QB is.

LOL. Shouldn't you be posting exclusively in the "We're going to go 8-8" thread? That seems to have pretty well summed up your feelings on this team...no need to rehash.

**DkBlue** · 11-13-2012, 10:49 AM

Ben played on a bad ankle at San Francisco last year and it relly hurt the team. It owuld have been better to play Batch or Leftwich.

I do no tquestion his toughness or willingness to play with nagging injuries.

This injury may be a different story. If he can't throw he can't go.

I recall watching Bradshaw trying to throw with his injured elbow. He threw a limp pass for a touchdown against the Jets but it was his last throw in the NFL.

**Complex** · 11-13-2012, 10:59 AM

Have we heard from Ben yet? He has said nothing, as usual. The only time he talks about his injuries is when he is asked. Show me where he rented out commericla intim or rented and ad the Sun talking about his injury. Guess what - the MEDIA talks about his injuries. He is hurt - how would you expect it to play out? High ankle sprains, broken noses, ribs, broken foot, etc, how is that crying wolf? It is select fans and haters who just label him that way. Please present to me evidence of him crying wolf.

Much is made of him playing hurt because, well, he is played hurt much more than most QB's. I can understand having disdain for him as an opposing fan, but to make unfounded statements like that? That has zero credibility. I just with the guy would have a full season, he was having a great year.

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Did you ever read the story, "the boy who cried wolf"?