Big Ben

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 11-14-2012, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ravens75

Jay Glazer says Ben is out for Sunday.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ltimore-ravens

What Glazer didn't mention is that once Ben was ruled out, the Rooney's promptly contacted the NFL league office to lobby for the officiating for the upcoming game to be assigned to Bill Leavy's crew.

And if Leavy's crew is unavailable, the Stealers are willing to settle for Jeff Tripplette's.

**Bhcforlife** · 11-14-2012, 08:44 AM

I'm still waiting for the official injury reports. This is more speculation. Only when he's listed as "Out" on the Steelers official injury report will I believe he isn't going to play, damn tough SOB.

**alienrace** · 11-14-2012, 08:49 AM

Sounds like he isn't going to play in either Ravens game.

**Ravenswintitle** · 11-14-2012, 09:10 AM

ESPN is saying that the Steelers have announced he is OUT. It's gonna be Lefty

**leachisabeast** · 11-14-2012, 09:12 AM

I knew he wasn't going to be playing, the doubt about his actual injuries were silly.

**Ravenswintitle** · 11-14-2012, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

I knew he wasn't going to be playing, the doubt about his actual injuries were silly.

he's such a drama queen that he brings out the skeptic thinking. and I still say they'll spend 75% of the pregame going through his past injuries and showing that stupid body chart with circles all over him. winning this game would be huge for the Ravens and would give Pitt another AFC loss. Losing to TN and Oakland is going to come back to bite them if the Ravens can get just one of the two head to head

**Corey** · 11-14-2012, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74

What Glazer didn't mention is that once Ben was ruled out, the Rooney's promptly contacted the NFL league office to lobby for the officiating for the upcoming game to be assigned to Bill Leavy's crew.

And if Leavy's crew is unavailable, the Stealers are willing to settle for Jeff Tripplette's.

Where did you read that?

**Ravens75** · 11-14-2012, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Corey

Where did you read that?

He's kidding but only slightly.

If you were able to watch Monday nights game you'd understand.

**Ravens75** · 11-14-2012, 09:36 AM

Need some clarification.

If a player is ruled out can he then be reinstated to doubtful or better?

**Ravenswintitle** · 11-14-2012, 09:39 AM

Adam Schefter reporting that the team has officially ruled him out and their goal is to get him healthy enough to play the second game. I believe they play the Browns in between and keep in mind the Browns always play Pitt tough

**iggyman555** · 11-14-2012, 09:48 AM

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

While focus is on Ben Roethlisberger's shoulder, greater concern is his injured rib. Roethlisberger's rib injury is rare and dangerous.
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**DrUnk** · 11-14-2012, 09:48 AM

Lawd Jesus, it doesn't end. Rare and dangerous rib injury per Schefter....

Per Schefter, the rib injury is regarded as both “rare and dangerous.”

**Ravenswintitle** · 11-14-2012, 09:51 AM

rare and dangerous, seriously? and the shoulder was 'strange'. wow

**lobachevsky** · 11-14-2012, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

ESPN is saying that the Steelers have announced he is OUT. It's gonna be Lefty

In fact, steelers.com reports that Leftwich "will start, replacing the injured Ben Roethlisberger." Which means only that Lefty will be the QB on their first offensive play from scrimmage--no less, no more.

Originally Posted by Bhcforlife

I'm still waiting for the official injury reports. This is more speculation. Only when he's listed as "Out" on the Steelers official injury report will I believe he isn't going to play, damn tough SOB.

This^^^. When the team or the league OFFICIALLY report him as "out" I'll believe it--not a second before.

**leachisabeast** · 11-14-2012, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by lobachevsky

In fact, steelers.com reports that Leftwich "will start, replacing the injured Ben Roethlisberger." Which means only that Lefty will be the QB on their first offensive play from scrimmage--no less, no more.This^^^. When the team or the league OFFICIALLY report him as "out" I'll believe it--not a second before.

Dude he's out, there are official reports everywhere.

**RedSkins Fury** · 11-14-2012, 10:09 AM

As far as the rib goes... we always accociate a rib injury with the lower ribs on the side of our body... Maybe a separated rib or something, which is painful but minor as far as future health concerns. A broken rib can be somewhat dangerous as there is a risk of puncture of an organ like the lungs, etc. But there are ribs that lie under the clavicle (one on each side) They are called the cervical ribs and they are intimately related to the SC joint that Ben has torn. This "Rib joint" is called the costoclavicular joint (ligament). He could have injured this too, or any number of the sternocostal ribs (Ribs attached to the sternum). Anyhow the danger of a cervical rib injury is that it can compress/lacerate the Brachial Plexus. The Brachial plexus is the nerve network that gives off all of the arm nerves coming off of the spine. There are major potential vascular injuries as well (subclavian artery, axillary artery, etc).

I'm not saying that this is a cervical rib injury... but it's possible given the nature of the SC joint injury. If this is what he ha has going on, we may here it referred to as "thoracic outlet syndrome". If so, surgery could be inevitable.

This all conjecture on my part. Just putting 2 and 2 together. For all I know he jammed his elbow into his side and bruised a lower rib...

**Paintballguy** · 11-14-2012, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by RedSkins Fury

As far as the rib goes... we always accociate a rib injury with the lower ribs on the side of our body... Maybe a separated rib or something, which is painful but minor as far as future health concerns. A broken rib can be somewhat dangerous as there is a risk of puncture of an organ like the lungs, etc. But there are ribs that lie under the clavicle (one on each side) They are called the cervical ribs and they are intimately related to the SC joint that Ben has torn. This "Rib joint" is called the costoclavicular joint (ligament). He could have injured this too, or any number of the sternocostal ribs (Ribs attached to the sternum). Anyhow the danger of a cervical rib injury is that it can compress/lacerate the Brachial Plexus. The Brachial plexus is the nerve network that gives off all of the arm nerves coming off of the spine. There are major potential vascular injuries as well (subclavian artery, axillary artery, etc).

I'm not saying that this is a cervical rib injury... but it's possible given the nature of the SC joint injury. If this is what he ha has going on, we may here it referred to as "thoracic outlet syndrome". If so, surgery could be inevitable.

This all conjecture on my part. Just putting 2 and 2 together. For all I know he jammed his elbow into his side and bruised a lower rib...

Wow great info here. Thanks.

If Adam Schefter is reporting it, I tend to believe it more. Remember Schefter correctly reported about Suggs playing before anyone else. I think he has good sources.

**Bhcforlife** · 11-14-2012, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Dude he's out, there are official reports everywhere.

The Steelers official injury report is the only thing that matters and that won't come out until later today. All signs do indeed point to him not playing but there is nothing official yet.

**leachisabeast** · 11-14-2012, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Bhcforlife

The Steelers official injury report is the only thing that matters and that won't come out until later today. All signs do indeed point to him not playing but there is nothing official yet.

Well it seems that some of those that where in denial about the injury, still wont just accept that he isn't bloody playing! I remember people were doubting Shefter's reports on Sizzle playing @ Houston, and were all wrong.

**Paintballguy** · 11-14-2012, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Bhcforlife

The Steelers official injury report is the only thing that matters and that won't come out until later today. All signs do indeed point to him not playing but there is nothing official yet.

http://blog.steelers.com/2012/11/14/...art-vs-ravens/

It's official people Ben is out. Stop with the tinfoil conspiracy crap.