Skip Bayless doesn't see the difference between Leftwich and Flacco.

**RavensNTerps** · 11-15-2012, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by Ravens75

To say this shows your bias against Joe. If you really believe what your saying I have no response.

To each his own I guess.

How?

**leachisabeast** · 11-15-2012, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by RavensNTerps

How?

You say that he's average, yet his numbers and win % show otherwise.

**RavensNTerps** · 11-15-2012, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

You say that he's average, yet his numbers and win % show otherwise.

Disagree that they say otherwise. Especially this year.

**ravensnhokies** · 11-15-2012, 07:39 AM

The daily RnT rant.... Man you are on a crusade to prove to every Raven fan that Joe is an average QB. Christ almighty... We get it by now. Face it...most of us aren't gonna completely agree with you. I do think you have some valid points on Flacco being average, but as a RAVEN FAN, I hope he exceeds my expectations in those areas of his game that I view as his weakpoints. Do you?? Because FYI, Joe is gonna be the Ravens QB for awhile. And he's still a young QB... Sure he may never be Peyton Manning but he'll get better.

**palukaraven** · 11-15-2012, 07:45 AM

Bayless is just doing what he is paid to do, and that is to stir the pot. I think he is quite entertaining to watch, particularly when he gets into heated debates with people over the Ravens. I honestly couldn't care less what this guy thinks. I just like to be entertained by his antics.

**RavensNTerps** · 11-15-2012, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by ravensnhokies

The daily RnT rant.... Man you are on a crusade to prove to every Raven fan that Joe is an average. Christ almighty... We get it by now. Face it...most of us aren't gonna completely agree with you. I do think you have some valid points on Flacco being average, but as a RAVEN FAN, I hope he exceeds my expectations in those areas of his game that I view as his weakpoints. Do you?? Because FYI, Joe is gonna be the Ravens QB for awhile. And he's still a young QB... Sure he may never be Peyton Manning but he'll get better.

Of course I do. But what I posted certainly wasn't a rant. It was like 3 words. He's been average this year.

**leachisabeast** · 11-15-2012, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by RavensNTerps

Of course I do. But what I posted certainly wasn't a rant. It was like 3 words. He's been average this year.

Flacco through 2012

60.2 comp %, 7.6 yards per comp, 13 TD's, 7 INTS, taken 19 sacks, has had 12 dropped passes, currently has 2363 yards on the year. Winning % is 7-2, Flacco has the least time out of any other QB in the league to throw the ball. Flacco's numbers are on a par with quite a few QB's in the league who you'd also consider elite, such as Drew Brees, and Eli Manning.

Not elite numbers so far, but they are pretty good numbers, and he's had one or two really bad games that have bought them down, if it weren't for them, I'd say he's been having by far his best year as a pro so far. Those numbers say to me, good QB and certainly better than average. Getting to 7-2 with the flaws we have on both sides of the ball, I'd say that's pretty amazing too.

**RavensNTerps** · 11-15-2012, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Flacco through 2012

60.2 comp %, 7.6 yards per comp, 13 TD's, 7 INTS, taken 19 sacks, has had 12 dropped passes, currently has 2363 yards on the year. Winning % is 7-2, Flacco has the least time out of any other QB in the league to throw the ball. Flacco's numbers are on a par with quite a few QB's in the league who you'd also consider elite, such as Drew Brees, and Eli Manning.

Not elite numbers so far, but they are pretty good numbers, and he's had one or two really bad games that have bought them down, if it weren't for them, I'd say he's been having by far his best year as a pro so far. Those numbers say to me, good QB and certainly better than average. Getting to 7-2 with the flaws we have on both sides of the ball, I'd say that's pretty amazing too.

Least time out of any QB in the league to throw the ball sounds very, very subjective to me.

**alienrace** · 11-15-2012, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by RavensNTerps

Least time out of any QB in the league to throw the ball sounds very, very subjective to me.

That was quoted from a stat on ESPN or some similar as I recall. They had an actual number for it.

Anyone thinking Joe is average, numbers, shmumbers, just isn't watching the guy play objectively. Sorry to be so crass and blunt, but that's how I see it. I'll take the opinions of guys like Jaworski, Gruden, etc over somebody like Bayliss or RavensNTerps every time.

**leachisabeast** · 11-15-2012, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by RavensNTerps

Least time out of any QB in the league to throw the ball sounds very, very subjective to me.

The numbers are still solid, and certainly better than average as you suggested.

**Dade** · 11-15-2012, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by alienrace

Anyone thinking Joe is average, numbers, shmumbers, just isn't watching the guy play objectively. Sorry to be so crass and blunt, but that's how I see it. I'll take the opinions of guys like Jaworski, Gruden, etc over somebody like Bayliss or RavensNTerps every time.

It baffles me that people can actually watch Joe and still say he's garbarge.

**Sua Sponte** · 11-15-2012, 12:12 PM

I guess this went OT and just focused on Joe. I'm try to bring it back a bit and say that Ed Reed is already getting jumping watching Lefty's long drawn wind up to pass. The way Ed jumps routes, he will have plenty of time to zero in on his targets. From start of throw to finish Lefty has to stare down his target during his long drawn out wind up to deliver the pass. Any throws on Reed's side of the field will be dangerous. Just my O2. He does seem to have a strong arm, but transitioning and going through progressions with pump fakes is unlikely, if a DB jumped a pump fake from Lefty they are an idiot.

**RavensQB** · 11-15-2012, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by RavensNTerps

Least time out of any QB in the league to throw the ball sounds very, very subjective to me.

Ask ELI how his TD passes are coming along this year..

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 11-15-2012, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Dade

It baffles me that people can actually watch Joe and still say he's garbarge.

Who said he was garbage?

BTW...I'm only posting this link because everybody loves to talk about how times our WR's let Joe down with drops.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...e=NFL&rank=232

**B-more Ravor** · 11-15-2012, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Who said he was garbage?

BTW...I'm only posting this link because everybody loves to talk about how times our WR's let Joe down with drops.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/t...e=NFL&rank=232

And I think about 1/2 of those came in the KC game (I think it was the KC game).

**blacknpurplepain** · 11-15-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by landspeed

I saw this earlier.....

How does this guy have a job?

The fan's of the team he bashes keeps him relevant by feeding into his bs. How many Raven fans tune in when Suggs is a guest on the show? How many Heat fans watch when King James is a guess?

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**Tucker: M&T Sec 527** · 11-16-2012, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

Skip is a professional troll

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And maybe he's one of those guys who says "he doesn't see race?"

**GOTA** · 11-16-2012, 03:09 PM

I don't see the difference between Leftwich and Boller.

**Jsmoove** · 11-16-2012, 03:34 PM

skip as pretty much backed himself in corner hating the Ravens so much that he has no choice but to stick with his steelo or else he would look like a real fuckin fool if he flip flopped at this point, more so than he already does. I swear if Tom Brady played for us he would find something to justify his dumbass cause.

**HoustonRaven** · 11-16-2012, 03:36 PM

He says things to purposely get a rise out of folks and yet his comments are debated as if he's speaking from a perspective of reason.

Very strange. We're now at 80 posts. I see Skip is still winning.